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Tanner 0:01

babies sleep for up to like 18 hours a

Andi 0:04

Mm-hmm. .Yeah. But never when you want them to

Sups 0:06

Yes, exactly.

Andi 0:09

I mean, of course you have a nipple in your mouth. fact. Yes, I knew it. I knew there'd be a poop fact.

Sups 0:19

Yeah. It looked like weird. Like a kryptonite

Tanner 0:22

or yeah,

Andi 0:25

it's so wild. But it has to be true. Cuz I can't imagine Tanner made that up. Hello, and welcome to this episode of the Aha Heaven podcast, the trivia podcast that can't be trusted. Each week, our Quizmaster presents you with four big facts on a topic, but one of those facts is a lie, and we're doing all things new for this new year, and we're continuing that theme with our Quizmaster Tanner.

Tanner 0:47

Hello.

Andi 0:48

And today he's going to be presenting us with four facts about newborns. But one of his facts, is not true. So join me, Andy, and our other host soups in figuring out which one is the lie.

Tanner 1:00

Okay. Newborns, A baby that's just been Born within the last month or. But our low hanging fruit is about pregnancy. How long is pregnancy in humans?

Andi 1:12

Wow. Wow. Okay. We got really low. This one's really, really Like is there a trick to

Sups 1:18

I dunno. I don't wanna say

Andi 1:20

anything. So we're talking about on average, I

Tanner 1:22

Yeah. Yeah. What's the standard number they

Andi 1:24

say? yeah. So nine months or 40 weeks.

Tanner 1:27

That's right. Or 280 days or 10 lunar months. Yeah. So

Andi 1:33

it's like 10 periods, like I like to measure my period using the. because like a calendar month is too long. Mm-hmm. but the moon cycle is about the right length, so it's very useful.

Tanner 1:42

So after that time, you give birth to a baby and it's a newborn for about a month or two. Okay. And newborns are very strange when you talk about like human anatomy and physiology.

Andi 1:53

they really ought to still be in there, Like they're basically still fetuses,

Sups 1:58

but

Tanner 1:59

so resilient and they really bounce back in a lot of ways. You know, like they're much more resilient than like an egg. You know, people treat them like they are

Andi 2:06

yeah. So soups, do you wanna know something about American health class? And legend. Let me see how weird you think this is. Okay, so in middle school, in order to, teach us about parenthood, cuz that's something 13 year olds need to learn. Yeah. we had this project where we had to take care of an egg baby. So like we had an egg

Sups 2:24

Okay. And how well did you do?

Andi 2:26

Um, Tanner failed. I remember very famously So like, you had to, you had to carry it around with you everywhere at school for a week. and I actually got unlucky. I actually had twins. And I remember in middle school when Tanner killed his egg baby,

Tanner 2:40

I had like a binocular case around my neck and it could just sit in there, nice cozy little baby carrier. And I leaned over in my desk and splat landed right in the ground,

Andi 2:49

like in the middle of class. It was excellent. It was absolutely

Sups 2:53

Wow. Oh, sorry guys. I mean, America has a lot of weird

Tanner 2:56

things.

Sups 2:56

but this is, I know what it taught me.

Tanner 3:00

I can't raise an egg

Andi 3:02

anyway, so newborns are stronger than eggs, I

Tanner 3:04

Hope. Yes. All right. Fact number one Newborns should not drink water

Andi 3:11

Okay, that makes sense. They drink milk

Sups 3:14

I get that.

Tanner 3:14

That's exactly right. Or formula.

Andi 3:17

Yeah. So this. Seems very obvious, which is always kind of scary with big facts, but like milk has water in it. and formula literally you use by mixing with water. so I would imagine that the idea is that all of their hydration just comes from that, but the whole, they shouldn't. This sounds very strange. Why shouldn't newborns have water?

Tanner 3:36

so newborns and even beyond the newborn stage up to six months. If you give them water instead of breast milk or formula, then they're not getting the right salts. and basically their kidneys can't filter as well as ours can. So if you're filling up their tiny, tiny stomachs with a lot of water, you're depriving them of salts and nutrients that they get from breast milk, and then their kidneys can't filter it as well. So then they get what's called failure to thrive. So they're kind of starving. I have failure

Sups 4:10

a tribe. Ftt.

Andi 4:13

right? Is that like languishing? Yeah.

Tanner 4:15

Failure

Andi 4:15

to Thrive. Okay. And basically they need to faster than they can just pee out of the water and get more food.

Tanner 4:23

That's right. Yeah.

Andi 4:24

That's trick. See See that sounds unbelievable to me. I guess I could see some very like crunchy ideas or like people who are very in fitness who are very serious and they're like, I need to drink a lot of water. I'm dehydrated. Mm-hmm. maybe my baby is, I should give my baby water or something, but maybe someone somewhere would think that. Yeah.

Tanner 4:41

It's also an issue making the formula, so you have to mix it with water, so if you water down the formula so that you can stretch it out longer, maybe because there's not enough formula on the shelves.

Andi 4:51

Ooh. See that is important. Yeah.

Sups 4:54

Right?

Andi 4:55

Okay, so I mean, so far yeah,

Sups 4:58

I, I can't believe that, I mean, I don't have a baby of my own, but a lot of people do around me, so I got

Andi 5:05

well, apparently don't do this as an experiment. You know, don't, don't test this on any

Sups 5:09

No, Okay.

Andi 5:09

When can, you said six

Tanner 5:11

months. After six months, it's not gonna ruin things.

Andi 5:14

right? There's stomachs that have grown,

Tanner 5:16

Yeah, Because newborns, their stomach is the size of a marble.

Sups 5:19

Right?

Andi 5:20

It's so small. They're so little,

Sups 5:22

Ah. That's why they're pooping a lot cuz they

Andi 5:25

But no, my thing is like how do they make so much more poop? than goes in? I don't understand. How do they do this? I hope you have a poop fact. fact. Yes, I knew it. I knew there'd be a poop fact.

Tanner 5:37

and

Sups 5:37

right. Course Let me drink some

Tanner 5:41

some water.

Andi 5:42

I know I keep drinking water. Like, screw you babies. Watch me do

Sups 5:46

Yeah. Okay,

Tanner 5:48

All right. for

Sups 5:48

two,

Tanner 5:49

Fact number two, a, newborn's first poop does not stink.

Sups 5:55

I'm trying to think. Because when my nephew was born, he pooped straight away like, I mean, after like an hour or so and it was green color.

Andi 6:04

Oh yeah.

Sups 6:05

I'm, Yeah. exactly. yes. And I cleaned it. I was like, you should

Andi 6:09

remember You're

Sups 6:10

uncle, uncle, trying to remember. No, actually it didn't stink.

Tanner 6:15

Surprising since it was green. Right.

Sups 6:17

Yeah.

Andi 6:18

Mc meconium is like a special kind of disgusting though.

Sups 6:21

Yeah. Yeah. It looked like weird. Like a kryptonite

Tanner 6:25

or yeah,

Andi 6:27

Yeah. yeah. meconium. Yeah. It's the, the special name for the, poop before it's made out. Food that they ingest through their mouths.

Tanner 6:36

So when they're in the placenta, they're ingesting a lot of, skin cells and everything that the mother is eating, but also all the fluid and everything that's floating around with them. And so this is technically their first poop, Okay.

Sups 6:49

So it's Right.

Tanner 6:51

And it's very sticky. can be as dark as black, and sometimes they come out covered in.

Andi 6:57

they poop all over

Tanner 6:58

Yeah. If they have a very difficult birth. But the key here is that it has very little odor.

Andi 7:04

Because they have no bacteria. have no bacteria. Oh, that makes sense.

Tanner 7:08

So the reason our poop stinks,

Sups 7:10

Tanner, I Unicorns,

Andi 7:12

Yeah, yeah. I dunno what you're talking about.

Sups 7:15

so lack of

Tanner 7:16

Yes. And it Yes. so in our stomachs, there's a whole colony of bacteria that's helping to break down our.

Andi 7:24

Yeah. And then their poop is like stinky gases. Yes. And then we poop out there stinky gases.

Tanner 7:29

Yes.

Sups 7:30

So it's all like connection, chain

Andi 7:32

Poop inception, yeah.

Tanner 7:35

But this colonization of our gut by bacteria doesn't start until birth. Yeah. So in the birth canal, the newborns are getting bacteria that will make their poop

Andi 7:45

stink. Uhhuh, So they haven't worked on it. So meconium doesn't stink. You mean it doesn't stink like our poop?

Tanner 7:51

I mean, yeah. Like it probably it has a scent. Sure it

Sups 7:55

have a scent,

Tanner 7:56

it doesn't smell like poop.

Sups 7:57

yeah. It wasn't like, oh my, I can't stand this. Like, you

Andi 8:00

Okay. Eventually the poops do smell

Sups 8:03

Oh

Tanner 8:03

Oh after, sure. After just a couple days, Yeah. I

Andi 8:07

it's like, oh man. Okay. this makes sense. It's very unbelievable though. I mean, really, like we're talking about babies and we're talking about excrement. Mm-hmm. you're trying to tell me that doesn't stink

Sups 8:19

I mean, only the first one. Right. Bigger. Yeah. So that's what, Right.

Andi 8:22

I mean,

Sups 8:23

Yeah. Sure, sure.

Tanner 8:25

let's move on to fact number three. Sleeping newborns should not be woken up.

Andi 8:31

Okay.

Sups 8:32

Okay. dogs?

Tanner 8:33

kind of like

Andi 8:34

Let's sleeping. Let's sleeping. dogs. lie. Yeah. Different. They won't

Tanner 8:37

won't bite you They won't bite you.

Sups 8:38

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. it takes forever for them to fall asleep. Who in the right mind wants to wake them up? They just stop crying now. Just, you know but why?

Tanner 8:49

their little baby brains are processing so much information every single day, every single hour, that they need the sleep to properly develop their brain.

Andi 8:59

Right.

Tanner 9:00

these neurons can only grow when they're sleep. if you interrupt that to feed them or to play with them, that's a bad idea.

Andi 9:08

Yeah. I mean really it's kind of a bad a day to wake anybody up, .If someone is sleeping it's cuz they need to be asleep.

Tanner 9:16

Right. But babies sleep for up to like 18 hours a

Andi 9:20

Mm-hmm. .Yeah. But never when you want them to

Sups 9:22

Yes, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. That 18 hour is not

Andi 9:26

Yeah. Your fixed they also eat every like two

Sups 9:29

Yeah. Yeah.

Andi 9:30

Okay. I feel skeptical about this because. Well, I feel like on one hand it's gonna make a lot of like new parents look really bad. Because I think a lot of people, you know, they try to train their baby to sleep in a way that is beneficial to an adult's waking schedule. Right? You want them to sleep at night So that seems kind of like.

Sups 9:47

way mm-hmm.

Andi 9:48

to be like, oh, you shouldn't be waking your baby. I feel like people would be more didactic about that if this was real, actual. I mean, I definitely could agree with the idea that like, you really shouldn't, but it's not the end of the

Sups 10:00

exactly, And I have. seen, Mothers like, even while the baby is sleeping, if it's like time to feed, like just to maintain that clock, So yeah. I don't know how I feel about, maybe there is like a medical argument to it, but

Andi 10:13

Yeah. See, I, know. I don't like this one. Hang

Sups 10:16

Yeah. all, of all the three that we've heard so

Andi 10:18

far. Okay. I have to hear another one.

Tanner 10:20

All right. Moving on to fact number four. Newborns can swallow and breathe at the same.

Andi 10:28

Wait, what? Wait, how? It's

Sups 10:30

I have an important question. Can Adults? swallow and breathe at the same time? No. Yeah, that's what I was just trying to do, and I was like, no, you can't.

Tanner 10:38

you might die. Don't try this.

Andi 10:41

Bye. P?

Tanner 10:43

That's how you drown

Sups 10:46

Okay.

Andi 10:47

I just realized the obvious. reason is how else are they going to breastfeed? You got a nipple in your mouth. Yeah. They still need to breathe. They don't take it out, take a breath and then go

Sups 10:56

back

Andi 10:57

in. Right.

Tanner 10:57

Right.

Andi 10:58

it's continuous sounds.

Sups 10:58

Sounds so logical.

Tanner 11:01

newborns also breastfeed for like 20 to 45 minutes. So they can breathe while they're doing this, but what they give up is the ability to talk.

Sups 11:10

Mm.

Andi 11:11

Well, yeah. I mean, of course you have a nipple in your mouth.

Tanner 11:15

No. But could adults do this? Sure. But then they wouldn't be able to.

Andi 11:19

Oh, you mean at all in general? At all? Not just when they have the nipple in their

Tanner 11:23

If you can swallow and breathe, you cannot talk.

Sups 11:26

Okay. So it's one or the other. Yes. Okay. Yes. And because babies don't talk and they're constantly on the boob. Yeah. So, okay.

Tanner 11:34

That's right.

Andi 11:35

So, What I know about, the complicated mechanism that is the human throat. There's a little flappy do that's like,

Tanner 11:42

Yes, sure.

Sups 11:45

Gladys.

Andi 11:45

Yes, but I'm trying to explain it. Okay. It's a little like piece of tissue that blocks off your airway when you got food. And so then, you know, and that's what happens when you kind of mess that up, then that's why you start coughing. Cuz you're choking, but you need the air in order to talk. So that's why don't talk while you're eating. this is why, right? you have to move the air past your larynx so that you can speak, right?

Tanner 12:07

So the larynx is higher in newborns. Mm-hmm. So they can breathe through their nose the whole time.

Andi 12:12

So when you're growing, your larynx

Tanner 12:15

It drops.

Andi 12:15

my God, that's

Tanner 12:17

So before they're six months old, their larynx drops down and then they can't swallow and breathe at the

Andi 12:23

See? See? never learned any of that because when I studied language development, it's always at the point where they can start talking So it's like, you know what, what happened before? Like we, the larynx had to move. That's wild.

Sups 12:36

Okay. So scientific,

Andi 12:37

Yeah. But do you really buy that though,

Sups 12:39

well, I tried to swallow and breathe at the same time. It didn't really

Tanner 12:45

newborns would be excellent. Chuggers. Yeah.

Andi 12:47

but, but they're teeny tiny

Tanner 12:49

That's true. Talk about this.

Andi 12:50

this. You would've

Tanner 12:51

be the size of a marble, but they could chug

Sups 12:53

it Chugging. Yeah.

Tanner 12:55

Yeah. They

Andi 12:55

do, um, keg stands.

Sups 12:57

very interesting.

Andi 12:58

Yeah. Babies, newborns, Wow. Yeah, newborns are amazing. those were very interesting facts, but we have to figure out which one is the lie. So can you please repeat them and then soups and I will take our guesses. Alright,

Tanner 13:08

All right. Fact number one, newborns should not drink water Fact number. two, a newborn's first poop does not stink. Fact number three, sleeping newborns should not be woken. In fact, number four. newborns can swallow and breathe at the same time. One of those is a

Andi 13:43

I feel like it's probably number three.

Sups 13:46

Mm-hmm.

Andi 13:46

just because the other ones make sense.

Sups 13:49

Yes.

Andi 13:50

and number three, it seems mean almost to be like, oh, you woke up your baby, you shouldn't do that. Yeah. Like I definitely think do it as little as possible, right. But like, you can like, you can wake up your baby. And I would imagine for like really little ones, you have to spread out their feedings. It's not like you can just give them a bunch of milk at once and then they don't need to eat for like several hours. they could be still sleeping through their hunger. I do that sometimes. I take a nap when I'm hungry, so I don't have to eat. So I would think then like you should wake up the baby to feed it,

Sups 14:23

Yeah, hundred percent. And faulty remaining three facts. I think having, experienced them No, my child, but children around me and I also think it's fact number three and I'm trying to really think if the first poop was super stinky or not, but I have a few.

Andi 14:40

unbelievable. Yeah. But also

Sups 14:42

like it's bacteria that makes sense.

Andi 14:44

and they shouldn't drink water. That's also kind of surprising. mean, it's but it makes sense.

Sups 14:48

sense.

Andi 14:49

Honestly, the last one is so unbelievable. It has to be true

Sups 14:52

Right?

Andi 14:53

Like, you know, it's so wild. But it has to be true. Cuz I can't imagine Tanner made that up. that's too wild.

Sups 14:59

Yeah. I'm also gonna pick number three.

Andi 15:01

Yeah. I think there's a catch to it that was like, you should have known this catch. We're Putting all of our egg babies in one basket.

Sups 15:09

see if it cracks or

Tanner 15:11

Well, your egg baby this time has survived. Yes. You didn't baby Every Yes. Fact number three is the lie. This is actually a misconception that a lot of people have. They say never wake a sleeping baby. this is totally fake. You should not wake a sleeping baby just to change them or just to play with them or just to hold them. But sleeping babies should be woken up every like three to four hours in order to feed, because feeding is much more important than sleeping. And they have such a small stomach that they've worked through all their food in three hours. this whole conversation about like forcing a sleep schedule on them, that doesn't really work for babies until after like six weeks up to three months. Mm-hmm. So even if you try to be like, sleep now, it's nighttime. I'm not gonna feed you until the day that won't

Andi 15:57

work. They don't care. They're I will scream,

Tanner 16:00

will scream, feed me. Yeah. So

Sups 16:02

at 3:00 AM 5:00 AM

Andi 16:04

then every 7:00 AM every three hours. Yeah, exactly. Which is why we force parents to live and work an. Schedule cuz you can't change that. Newborns are how they are, but we can change what we expect out of adults who are taking care of

Sups 16:19

Absolutely. Yeah.

Tanner 16:21

Yeah. So it's totally okay and actually you should wake your baby up in order to feed it

Andi 16:26

Okay. Yeah. That makes sense. We're such good

Tanner 16:30

Very good job.

Sups 16:32

I mean,

Andi 16:34

Wow. I

Tanner 16:34

have known that You guys are experts on

Andi 16:36

Yeah, you should have known yeah. I should have known.

Sups 16:40

I should have known.

Andi 16:42

Thanks for listening to this episode of the I Should Have Known podcast. We'll be continuing with our new theme for the rest of the month. And as always, thanks for listening

Sups 16:51

forgive me father, for I have pooped