Marvel Superheroes - Nerding Out Theme

Tanner 0:01

Oh, wow. It just has that as a superpower.

Andi 0:04

Nice. Why did it need to be a chimp? Is Nick Fury a Samuel Jas? Yes. Okay, good. She gets radioactive juice, spilled all over her, and you guys can't even name what she's good at, man thing sounds very not

Sups 0:20

appropriate

Tanner 0:20

I think they just ran out of names.

Andi 0:24

Wait, what there? He has two reasons to be weird Hello and welcome to this episode of the I Should Have Known podcast, the trivia podcast that can't be trusted. Each week our Quizmaster presents you with four big facts on a topic, but one of those facts is a lie, and we're starting a new themed for this month. We are doing nerd, so we're nerding out. and our first quizmaster for the month is soups. Hey, and soups is doing a find the fake episode on Marvel superheroes. So he will present us with four superheroes, from Marvel's extended universe, the comic books, movies, everything but one of his heroes is not a Marvel superhero, so it is fake. So join me, Andy, and another host Tanner in figuring out which one it is.

Sups 1:08

Okay, so we are gonna be talking about four superheroes, but before we get going here's the low hanging fruit Which phase of the Marvel Cinematic universe are we in right now?

Tanner 1:19

Okay.

Andi 1:20

This is not low in the least. I am just discovering that there are

Tanner 1:23

phases

Andi 1:24

so, I'm gonna guess five.

Sups 1:28

We are in phase

Tanner 1:29

five. Five. Okay.

Sups 1:30

So phase five is 2003, 2024. And phase six is 24, 25.

Andi 1:35

okay.

Sups 1:36

Yeah. So yeah, yeah. they announced the whole during Comicon, couple of years back. And so In phase five you will have guardians of the Galaxy Volume three. Daredevil captain America New World Order And Antman and the Wasp

Tanner 1:51

Quantum Mania.

Andi 1:52

I am not nerdy about this at all, so here we are. It's kind of a weird thing, like as a theme too, like what is nerdy nowadays because like definitely being into comics, I think it's still pretty nerdy. but like liking superheroes is no longer nerdy. Right? Yeah. But like I am old enough to remember when these movies came out and it did feel like this fun thing But now that it's so mainstream that it just kind of doesn't mean as much

Tanner 2:16

anymore.

Sups 2:17

That's true. So today we are going to be talking about slightly obscure Marvel superheroes, but they were very popular in the comic Alright. Superhero number one, death AKA Mistress Death or Lady Death.

Tanner 2:33

Ooh.

Andi 2:34

Okay,

Tanner 2:35

Lady Death.

Sups 2:36

Marvel describes death. as, the embodiment of the end of all things, death holds dominion over all living beings while maintaining a tight crip on the keys to immortality.

Tanner 2:48

Hmm.

Sups 2:49

So death is basically a cosmic entity who possesses night omnipotent powers. Wow.

Tanner 2:55

Wow. So even more than a superhero.

Andi 2:58

like a God

Sups 3:00

She was In love with Deadpool, yeah, with whom she crosses paths repeatedly, after his numerous near death experiences. Yeah.

Tanner 3:10

Right? Yeah. He would be very intimately acquainted with death.

Sups 3:14

Yes, yes. but you know who was in love with death Teos. So Teos sought after the Infinity Stones, not to gain power, but to win death's, affection and approval.

Tanner 3:25

Huh? Okay.

Sups 3:27

But this is in the comics, right? In the movie it's slightly different. Yeah.

Tanner 3:30

Mm-hmm.

Andi 3:31

So as a person who knows very little about any of this stuff, but what I do know about is Greek mythology, and I know that like Marvel uses certainly Norse mythology. That's a whole huge

Tanner 3:42

Yeah.

Andi 3:42

Area. I see here that we have. Some Greek

Tanner 3:46

Mm-hmm.

Andi 3:46

and I'm pretty sure Thanos is a Greek God or like that name comes from

Tanner 3:50

Yeah. Greek thanatos

Andi 3:52

Yeah, Right. Yeah. I feel like that's clearly inspired by that. So that makes it seem more realistic to me. But at the same time, if y'all were to make up a hero Oh.

Tanner 4:03

Death death,

Sups 4:04

so creative, right?

Andi 4:06

I mean, right. Like, it's like, it's not really a hero, it's a cosmic entity. and it represents death. Or like, If I were soups and knowing who his co-hosts are, you know what I would do? I'd be like, I'm gonna use a Hindu God Oh no.

Tanner 4:22

Gotcha.

Andi 4:22

like, they're not gonna know. pretty much every religion and mythos has some kind of god of death. Right, right.

Tanner 4:30

that's a pretty solid plan. Yeah.

Andi 4:31

also at the same time, it seems very realistic that someone at Marvel would think the same thing. So like, this is tricky, right? I have to hear more. Okay.

Sups 4:40

then let's move on to superhero number two. Bobo aka Detective Chimp.

Andi 4:47

How did I know it was going to be an

Tanner 4:49

A

Andi 4:49

when it was just called Bobo? I was like, oh, Bobo. Definitely an ape. A

Sups 4:55

hundred. percent chimp, with a human level intellect, and can speak and write all languages known to mankind.

Tanner 5:03

Oh, wow. It just has that as a superpower.

Andi 5:06

Nice. Why did it need to be a chimp? you could have just been linguist

Sups 5:10

plan person. So Detective Chimp first made his debut during the Golden Age of Comics. So Golden Age of Comics takes place between 1938 and 1955

Andi 5:23

this yeah. Back when like, superheroes were like rallying actual

Tanner 5:26

yeah. Super superman versus the

Andi 5:29

Nazis Yeah. Right. Like

Sups 5:30

And their popularity increased exponentially. So detective Chimp was part of that golden era, right? So Bobo used to be a part of a circus where he did tricks on the audience and he accidentally drank a potion. Called Fountain of Youth and gained his intellectual powers. He was basically a normal chimpanzee in Africa and was taken there to be a part of the circus. Bobo has a history of alcohol and tobacco. Abuse.

Andi 6:02

I also love that, like, I'm a chimp and I can speak all languages. So my job is to be a detective I assume he wears a trench coat. I'm gonna,

Tanner 6:13

And a hat fedora.

Sups 6:14

has, he has the hat. Sherlock Holmes look was actually inspired from this

Andi 6:20

Oh, okay. Bobo, call me

Sups 6:22

it.

Tanner 6:22

Oh wow.

Sups 6:24

and what else

Andi 6:24

does he ever team up with? Yeah. Who does he team up

Sups 6:26

up with? So he teams up with Captain Marvel. Um, There is also a mention of him teaming up with Captain America, but Bobo is actually a part of, the Bureau of Amplified Animals. So, which is like these animals who have these human-like power,

Andi 6:42

I just like want him to do like the forties, like detective talk, like smoking a cigarette and be like, Hey doll, come on over. I need to ask you some. C

Sups 6:50

Well, he has, he has a history of alcohol and tobacco.

Andi 6:54

they all did

Tanner 6:56

It sounds like a really good like noir

Andi 6:59

Yes. Exactly. Yeah,

Tanner 7:01

parody. A parody noir movie. That's

Andi 7:03

wanna see. Yeah. Yeah. But he is a chimp the whole time. He's

Tanner 7:06

a chimp.

Andi 7:06

so I can see this one as being a real Marvel one, because I feel like the time period is talking about, I imagine at that time, when. Rich people were like, yeah, oh, comics are a thing. And they were like, throw literally everything at it and see what sticks. So like Talking Chimp Detective. Sure. He could've just been a thing for a few years.

Tanner 7:29

pretty believable, but pretty easy to make up. I think

Andi 7:32

one.

Sups 7:33

All right. Superhero number three, Jessica Jones. Jessica Jones is from Queens. She went to Midtown High School, along with Peter Parker, they had quite a few classes together and Jessica had a crush on Peter, Jessica got her powers in a car accident. Her dad used to work for Stark Industries,

Tanner 7:57

Ah.

Andi 7:57

Mm.

Sups 7:58

so he got a free ticket for his family to go visit Disney World and when they were coming back, the car

Andi 8:05

the merger with Disney buying

Sups 8:07

Yeah.

Tanner 8:08

Right. Yeah.

Sups 8:08

So when they were coming back the car collided with the truck. carrying

Andi 8:13

after. Oh. but she did get to go to Disney World first. Okay. It's a less

Sups 8:16

coming, yeah. Yeah. Let's start. They were coming back and so of course the entire family died. She was the only survivor. She was in coma. She was then taken up by, adoptive parents. She's, also a detective, she can jump, like

Tanner 8:30

she's

Sups 8:31

strong. Martial martial arts, kind

Tanner 8:33

of yeah. thing. See, there's a show on Netflix about Jessica Jones and she, yeah, she's wearing like a leather coat. She's like on the streets. So I think she's like Nick Fury, where she's not super powered. Yeah. But she has super fast reflexes and strength and speed, right?

Andi 8:50

Is Nick Fury a Samuel Jas? Yes. Okay, good. Okay.

Sups 8:54

Yes. And Jessica, at least in the comic books married Luke Cage.

Tanner 8:58

Yes. Also a, comic? Super strong fighter guy,

Sups 9:01

yes. Who is Bulletproof? That's a superpower yeah. That's Jessica

Tanner 9:06

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Andi 9:07

Wow. the way Tanner is just like nodding as if he knows. This one makes me think this one must be

Sups 9:11

real, Okay. ,,Sure.

Tanner 9:13

Well, that's where it's tricky though. I know she exists. I have no idea if she's a Marvel character.

Andi 9:18

Oh, okay.

Tanner 9:19

because I didn't know about this connection with Spider-Man or with Luc Cage That would tell me that it's a Marvel character. But I know that she exists. She's from the comics and there's a Netflix show.

Andi 9:29

Alright. Well that's good that you guys are like nerding out. I won't call it mansplaining. It was border lining that if it is a real Marvel hero, she sounds very nineties to me. Her name's Jessica. That's. someone born after the sixties Yeah. Came of age in the eighties or nineties. So that I'm guessing, based on her name. if I were her, I'd be mad though that like Peter Parker gets to like, swing around on Webs when he gets bit by a radioactive spider. She gets radioactive juice, spilled all over her, and you guys can't even name what she's good at, Like She's

Sups 9:58

good at beating

Tanner 9:59

She But you she

Andi 10:01

have, you don't have to be radioactive to

Sups 10:04

good

Andi 10:04

people

Tanner 10:05

She could just

Andi 10:05

out. Yeah. Yeah. Like Okay. We seem pretty confident that she exists. So the, the real question is, is she a part of Marvel? Which would mean that like soup's made up all of this connection to Peter Parker. So I guess that could have happened Very possible. But then

Tanner 10:21

where'd Yeah,

Andi 10:23

I think that he is just making it easier for me because even guessing between three is the part I can't even do that.

Tanner 10:29

you think this is definitely a Marvel character?

Andi 10:31

I mean, you're so confident she exists. something she, she's. gritty, dark enough to be in the DC universe or like sparkly enough.

Tanner 10:39

Yeah.

Andi 10:40

So then I'm like, well, where else did she come from?

Tanner 10:42

yeah.

Andi 10:43

Can we hear the fourth Superhero

Sups 10:47

super superhero number. Theodore Salas, AKA Maning.

Andi 10:55

Like appropriate for all audiences because man thing sounds very not

Sups 11:01

appropriate

Tanner 11:02

I think they just ran out of names.

Andi 11:04

Even Bobo was more like inventive

Sups 11:07

Yeah, So Ted Salas was a biochemistry professor at the Empire State University. was then recruited by the US Army for Project Sulfur. The project was basically around inventing compounds that would allow Army to survive biochemical warfare

Andi 11:25

Mm-hmm.

Sups 11:26

Salas, he invented the s o two. which granted immunity to all known toxic elements which are used during biochemical warfare.

Andi 11:38

Nice.

Sups 11:39

But that's a catch. It had a side effect. anybody who used the serum turned into a monster.

Tanner 11:46

Of course,

Andi 11:46

classic. So it's

Sups 11:48

So same thing himself. he transformed into the man thing. When he injected himself with the, so, and crashing his car in a mystical dump.

Andi 11:58

Wait, what there? He has two reasons to be weird also. You have to explain what he looks like, because I'm picturing a giant

Tanner 12:05

penis

Sups 12:07

and think of a, like a green, like a huge green monster. Right. like

Tanner 12:12

swamp thing. Yeah.

Sups 12:13

yeah, Exactly. Exactly.

Andi 12:15

weird.

Sups 12:15

Yeah. And communication isn't his strong suit. And it seems to have lost most. If not all, human intellect. But man thing can sense human emotions.

Andi 12:29

Does he change color based on people's emotions? Is he just like a

Sups 12:32

No, he's green. green. No, he's green. But he Secrets a potent, corrosive substance that can melt through anyone's.

Tanner 12:41

Oh my goodness. So

Sups 12:41

because of the swamp environment He's dependent on the swamp environment to continue getting his power. So he has

Tanner 12:47

to

Sups 12:47

live in the swamp.

Andi 12:49

he's like a d and d

Tanner 12:50

Yeah. Yeah.

Sups 12:51

Like, yeah,

Tanner 12:52

So can you switch in between man thing

Sups 12:54

no, no, no. no. no. Yes, yes. Yes. he transformed into the man thing.

Andi 12:58

but like

Sups 12:59

Yeah. Yeah.

Andi 12:59

it doesn't seem to really be benefiting from the whole, I'm immune to all poisonous

Tanner 13:04

Yeah. You can't poison me. Okay, well what good are you?

Sups 13:08

Well, that's why they canceled the project. Sulfur. So man Thing had its own movie in 2005, but only has a 14% score on Rotten Tomatoes

Tanner 13:19

it and it

Sups 13:20

at the box office.

Tanner 13:21

Yeah.

Andi 13:22

they tried to make a man thing movie.

Sups 13:24

Yes.

Andi 13:24

before Ironman.

Tanner 13:25

Yeah.

Andi 13:26

Okay. So how does he interact with the rest of the Marvel?

Sups 13:28

I think this, project Sulfur was later on included in. So that's where, Project Sulfur is the connection.

Andi 13:35

So is man thing a hero?

Sups 13:38

Yes. His arch enemy, at least in the movie was this industrialist, right? Who was

Andi 13:42

Oh, who had

Tanner 13:44

This With the toxins.

Sups 13:45

With the

Andi 13:45

he made the swamp. So he's

Tanner 13:48

like an anti pollution hero.

Andi 13:50

He's Captain Planet in blob form.

Tanner 13:52

Yeah. Yep. He feels emotions

Andi 13:54

Yeah. This is weird. He feels human

Sups 13:57

but He doesn't have

Andi 13:58

What does he do about that? He can't give someone angry. He can't give someone a hug. Like What

Tanner 14:04

Sounds like it would get canceled very

Andi 14:06

fast. Yeah. I mean, like, I can't even imagine like the drawings like, in a comic, right?

Tanner 14:11

that, this is very unbelievable to me that that was a comic book character.

Andi 14:14

Yeah. I mean, the argument of like, just throw everything at something. Mm-hmm. Let's make toxic sludge sentient, but not really, but kind of. He has emotions. Yeah, sure. But I don't know, it sounds very unbelievable. Well, Tanner and I are going to guess now, which of these four heroes is not a real Marvels superhero. But before we do that, can you please recap the four of them for us?

Sups 14:37

Yes. The four superheroes are number one, death, aka Mistress death, or Lady death. Number two, Bobo AKA Detective. Number three, Jessica Jones, number four, Theodore Salas, AKA Maning. One of them is not a Marvel superhero,

Tanner 15:15

So which ones could you rule out or which ones are you leaning towards?

Andi 15:18

I'm so screwed. I have like such little context to go off

Tanner 15:24

of Mm-hmm. ,I

Andi 15:25

know so little. Um, So I think that one might be the lie. Mm-hmm. because we made the whole thing about how, like, it's not a Marvel superhero. But that doesn't mean that soups came up with this

Tanner 15:37

Right.

Andi 15:38

well, it sounds like a God

Tanner 15:39

Yeah. from a, religion or mythology. Yeah.

Andi 15:41

so,

Tanner 15:42

okay.

Andi 15:42

I don't know. But also at the same time, that's the problem with it, is that like, it wouldn't be that hard for even a, comic writer to come up with the same idea. Yeah, You know, let's personify death, like humans have been doing that for thousands and thousands of years. So like, I could also believe that, somebody really did at Marvel,

Tanner 15:58

Yeah, I know. They do that all the time in the comics,

Andi 16:02

Bobo. I'm not gonna touch Bobo. I want to manifest

Tanner 16:05

Bobo. Okay. See, I really like Bobo, but I think that that one is probably not a Marvel superhero. I think it's from something else.

Andi 16:14

Oh, Okay.

Tanner 16:15

I think it's real, but it's not from Marvel.

Andi 16:17

Okay.

Tanner 16:17

Jessica Jones, I believe.

Andi 16:19

Yeah. And then honestly, man thing is the one I feel the most confident. Wow. Is like a superhero of some kind. Again, there's the issue of is it Marvel? cuz I know so little about superheroes and comics in general that like, if you were like, oh, this is a superhero from such and such, okay, well you got me cuz I, yeah. I was never gonna get that. Right. But honestly, it sounds the least like something soups would've made up.

Tanner 16:41

up. Mm-hmm.

Andi 16:42

Okay. Cuz it, it's so bizarre.

Tanner 16:43

Yeah.

Andi 16:44

So I think, I'm just going guess number one because I can imagine where soups could have made it up,

Tanner 16:50

Okay. And I think it's number two. I think Bobo is real, but not from Marvel. I Hope.

Andi 16:54

I have.

Tanner 16:55

is real.

Andi 16:55

No, I want Bobo

Sups 16:57

two.

Tanner 16:58

be real. Yes,

Sups 16:59

Okay. Alright, right, so we've got death and Bobo. it's exactly what Tanner said. I went super basic. Bobo, aka. Detective Chimp is from the DC

Tanner 17:10

It is. on. Yes. Bobo. So who does he work with?

Andi 17:15

justice. League, is that right? right. Serious

Tanner 17:20

You know your stuff. You know your stuff.

Sups 17:22

you know, you know, you know enough Novo good

Tanner 17:26

to Justice League. I

Sups 17:27

I think there are some mentions, but it's not like he's like an active member

Andi 17:31

Okay.

Sups 17:32

That's his comics were a huge hit. Oh, they were. Yeah. Yeah.

Andi 17:35

I mean, we clearly Loved it, you know? Yeah. Honestly, you know, I want a Bobo movie to exist. I won't watch it but I want it to exist. I would be

Tanner 17:43

excited about that than Ant Man.

Sups 17:45

Yeah.

Andi 17:45

Yeah. Or Aquaman or

Sups 17:48

Yeah.

Tanner 17:49

Yeah. Wow. They have so many different things in comics. Like such obscure heroes.

Sups 17:54

Whatever you have imagined

Tanner 17:55

already

Andi 17:56

exists. ,that's, yeah. I find that with a lot of stuff that's kind of the issue where it's like, no, this is already a story.

Sups 18:01

Yeah.

Tanner 18:02

Wow.

Andi 18:02

well, at least Bobo's real.

Tanner 18:04

right? I'm

Andi 18:05

really devastated at all because at least Bobo's Real, I should have known.

Tanner 18:08

I should have,

Andi 18:09

Thanks for listening to this episode of the Ihad of Known podcast. we'll be continuing with our nerd theme beyond the lookout for that. And as always, thanks for listening. Okay. It better not just be like a DC one. I'm gonna be mad because, you know, I don't know the difference.