Death Metal - Halloween Theme

Andi 0:01

Eating your brain. Megos You could just scream anything Yeah, At a certain point it doesn't even matter what you're

Tanner 0:08

Right. in my experience, when you make something up, you don't go full on

Andi 0:15

Yeah Yeah Figurative Yeah You don't, Tanner

Sups 0:19

Ok. That's

Andi 0:21

literally like an

Tanner 0:22

AI

Andi 0:22

that. That's those words. It's like, you put a bunch of sci-fi words right? In like a bucket and you just

Sups 0:28

pull that

Andi 0:30

Hello, and welcome to this episode of the I Should Have Known podcast, the trivia podcast that can't be trusted. Each week our quizmaster presents you with four big facts on a topic, but one of those F is a lie. We are continuing with our Halloween theme, and this week our quizmaster is soups,

Sups 0:46

Hello

Andi 0:49

and wow. soups is doing a Find the Fake episode on Death Metal. So he is going to tell us about four death metal songs. Give us some lyrics but one of these songs he has invented. So join me, Andy, and other host Tanner in figuring out which one is the fake.

Tanner 1:08

figuring

Andi 1:09

I'm so excited. I feel like my voice is good for, it sounds like maybe. It sounds like I was singing death metal for hours. It's actually, I went to Octoberfest and this is my voice now.

Sups 1:19

Yeah. I thought of doing the entire episode, like crawling, but then I thought, no,

Andi 1:24

they would then you'd end up sounding like me

Sups 1:26

But you know, for the research of this episode, I've been listening to a lot of debt metal and my ears hurt. Um But we are gonna talk about metal music, specifically about debt, metal and sub genres

Tanner 1:39

right

Sups 1:40

I'll give you some context about the song, the album, but of course one of the songs I haven't copied from any other band, I haven't copied from anything else. It's just mild

Andi 1:50

a soup's, original

Tanner 1:52

He wrote a head banger. All right.

Sups 1:54

All right. I do have a low hanging Fruit of the

Andi 1:57

week. Okay.

Sups 1:58

Which band song is Welcome to The Jungle?

Tanner 2:02

Welcome to the

Andi 2:03

Ggo

Tanner 2:05

That's,

Sups 2:07

I

Tanner 2:07

that one. Okay. That's Guns and

Sups 2:11

That is correct. It is Guns and Roses from their album, Appetite for Destruction in 1987, and this song actually falls under glam metal and hard rock

Tanner 2:24

Yeah. This is where they sang without their shirts on and they had like cool top hats and

Andi 2:29

Axle Rose always at the bandana.

Tanner 2:31

Yeah,

Sups 2:32

Yeah.

Tanner 2:32

They're like gotta be the softest of the metals. You know? Glam metal is very different from Slipknot and slayer, right? It is like totally other side of the spectrum.

Sups 2:40

That is true. And Did you know where death metal originate?

Tanner 2:44

I always think of Scandinavia.

Sups 2:45

Ooh

Andi 2:46

Yeah, Right. When you think of death metal, it seems Scandinavian

Tanner 2:49

Like trying to channel some Viking energy.

Sups 2:52

right? That metal originated in Tampa, Florida,

Andi 2:55

Of course it did. apparently you know, death metal makes much more sense. If you had to live your whole life in

Tanner 3:02

Yeah

Sups 3:02

you're right

Andi 3:02

you know

Tanner 3:03

to scream

Andi 3:04

it You would be, yeah, you would be

Sups 3:06

Yeah

Andi 3:06

like death. and things

Sups 3:08

Alright. Are you ready for song number one?

Andi 3:11

Yes. I'm so ready

Sups 3:14

All right. first song is A Sky Full of Macs.

Andi 3:18

All right.

Sups 3:18

Ring a bell

Andi 3:19

Yeah. This was uh our first dance was just

Sups 3:23

Okay. I'm gonna do the lyrics first and then give you a context about the song, All right. Lying there. Cold after a torturous death. Your life ended fast. You took your last breath dead in a grave. Your final place, the maggots inf your disfigured face pass through your vein, takes the place of blood decay sets in bones, begin to crack, thrown six feet down left to ro. Brains oozing black down the side of your broken neck sky full of maggots. They enter your two maggots beginning to feast. Maggots crawling on you. Maggots now they eat you. Maggots, rotting, maggots, maggots. Investing your corpse maggots, parasites of the dead. Maggots now to in your.

Tanner 4:11

Wow I could almost sing along there,

Andi 4:13

Yeah. I got that. That

Sups 4:14

There's a good vibe

Andi 4:15

was a vibe there.

Sups 4:16

So this a sky full of nuggets from the debut album. Eaten Back to Life is one of the most popular songs of Cannibal Corpse. The band actually was formed in 1988 in Buffalo, New York, but they moved to Tampa in 1994. They have 15 studio albums and the band has gone through many lineup changes, right? And this album, because of the lyrics was banned in Germany And this. Album. was dedicated to the memory of Alfred Packer, the first US cannibal.

Tanner 4:48

wow. I have heard of Cannibal Corpse. The song sounds totally legit.

Andi 4:55

Yeah. I mean, that has like, such a good rhythm and groove. I'm really, really impressed if you made that

Tanner 5:00

up.

Sups 5:01

I mean they sing it in a completely

Andi 5:03

different Of course Yeah, But I mean, you were really given it.

Tanner 5:06

I can picture it.

Andi 5:07

Yeah, I think I can imagine how the song probably actually goes. Yeah Yeah. So this is why this is a great Halloween theme. I'm so excited for this episode. This, this is already like, we're good. cuz like the lyrics. And it's funny how like in, death metal style, you don't really hear

Sups 5:21

the lyrics right

Tanner 5:22

lot. right

Andi 5:22

Mm-hmm. but like, they're truly just. Works of

Tanner 5:25

art Yeah, They're poetic almost.

Sups 5:27

There are some excellent work of poetry.

Andi 5:30

So I think that one sounds real. Yeah. and I just wanna be clear for listeners, the band and everything is totally true. It's only the song itself that would be the lie. Yeah.

Tanner 5:39

the song sounds on brand for cannibal,

Andi 5:41

chorus It it sounds, Yeah. Magos

Tanner 5:44

Mm-hmm Megas Sky Full of Megas Yeah

Andi 5:48

Eating your brain. Megos I almost started singing along when you were doing Magos.

Sups 5:54

Yeah. Yeah It's a good song. I recommend it. Probably with the earplugs.

Tanner 5:58

Yeah. Margarets girl,

Sups 6:01

Amazing All right. Song number two, black label. The lyrics. The human confrontation. I've built a phobia. It takes my essence somewhere, somewhere to take control. I may be far from rocking. I'm the one alone. I may be far behind lines and made them turn away. I want to know, Hey, you watch out. I've made them turn to cripple. Hey, you watch out. When I will know who will know back fight, why time would let me die to control. I fear nothing. Why don't you know I rip my mind? And why don't you bleed? I fear no one. Why you turn back. I may not stop. My freedom can contain, but tell me the pain. I liberate. R. Hostility to anyone has made us so much hate. I made them turn from hate. But tell me the pain and suffering. I made them turn from hate. But tell me the pain and suffering I.

Andi 7:00

wow.

Tanner 7:00

Sounds more like slam poetry or something. Not, not so much traditional

Sups 7:05

So one of the biggest hits of, Lamb of God.

Andi 7:09

Mm-hmm.

Sups 7:10

This is from their album, New American Gospel, which was released in 2000. Their music revolves around groove metal, metal, core trash metal and debt metal. Which is why you can see the lyrics are also, you know, slightly different from a hundred percent debt metal. Yeah. But there is a lot of debt metal. Influence. Lamb of God has multiple Grammy nominations and actually this band was formed in 1994 The new American Gospel has been described as grind core and debt metal for the hardcore kids.

Tanner 7:42

those words don't mean anything to me. I don't know what grind

Andi 7:45

core. I think I know what all those things mean

Sups 7:47

separate

Tanner 7:47

separate Yeah.

Andi 7:49

Yeah. So this one, it's like not as death mentally, we got bleeding heads and stuff. You know, we got a little bit,

Tanner 7:55

but the first one literally talked about a

Andi 7:57

But it's more like, these like other genres where you're contemplating life and place in it. Yeah. In the world. And how hard it is to be a

Sups 8:06

human Yeah

Andi 8:07

So they didn't rhyme?

Tanner 8:09

No, no. That stuck out to me. I was like, Well, if you're screaming and it doesn't really matter so much if it

Sups 8:15

run Yeah Exactly.

Andi 8:16

Right. Definitely. Yeah. But it's so interesting, like You could just scream anything Yeah, At a certain point it doesn't even matter what you're

Tanner 8:23

Right. I always think of it in terms of like karaoke though, Like how do you have your fans sing along? Oh.

Andi 8:29

like you've never been to metal Karaoke, Tanner

Tanner 8:32

I have, but it's so hard. Like, I can't even join in. You know, with the first one it's like Margarets and this one's like, the only part what

Andi 8:40

Yeah, It's definitely not as lyrically. Exquisite as the first one

Sups 8:44

But the music is Yeah

Andi 8:45

I bet the music's good though Yeah

Tanner 8:48

yeah, Lamb of God is very popular. Yeah, I've definitely heard of them.

Andi 8:51

so do we think soups made that up?

Tanner 8:53

I don't know if it's harder to make a song that rhymes or that doesn't rhyme. I know, you know,

Andi 8:59

Yeah. also like the lyrics are very Poetic. Like they're not clear. So like, so do you wanna talk about some stuff? You wrote this, Are you okay? I'm okay.

Sups 9:11

I'm

Tanner 9:11

You could turn this

Andi 9:12

The pain and suffering. So yeah, I think maybe this one's

Tanner 9:17

sounds pretty real. Mm-hmm. Yeah. We'll see.

Andi 9:20

Yeah. So we got two more to consider Yeah. All right.

Sups 9:23

Let's move on to song number three, Dance of Death. Here are the lyrics. I'm consecrated, I possess the key. Million years away swirling stars in slow motion, waiting for the dance of death. Plunging into the Barron Abs of Hope. They watch and wonder if ever they'll get the chance to lick. Glory away the Renaissances. Here I am falling. The truth will not be found. I am dancing to death. This will be my last time. You will not hear from me, but the silence won't be my choice.

Andi 10:01

Wow.

Tanner 10:02

Dang

Andi 10:02

Very dark. Oh man.

Sups 10:05

So Dance of Death from the album Labert Constellation released in 2014. by, let's say, the current death metal, most popular band. They're called Artificial Brain. This band is now sort of the gold standard for modern death middle. Their music largely revolves around progressive, technical debt metal. The album Labyrinth, Constellation has been described as Cosmic Madness. the band was formed in 2011 in Long Island, New York. And another track from this album was featured in an episode of the TV show Elementary. Mm-hmm. you know the American Sherlock

Tanner 10:46

Locals Mm-hmm Okay. Yeah.

Andi 10:47

I was gonna say that the lyrics themselves sounded like an AI wrote them that had to like read a bunch of sci-fi novels. just a garbage disposal of words.

Tanner 10:58

It's a word salad. Yeah. Yeah.

Andi 11:00

Wow. Yeah, so this one's interesting. We have, it's very cosmic. It has a lot of kind of more sci-fi space themes. Mm. Which is an interesting way of thinking about death

Tanner 11:10

also sounds like a suicide note to me. You know, it's talking about like, I will be silent, I will be falling dancing to death, but it's not my choice. Very interesting.

Sups 11:21

The song that was used in the TV show, it's called Absorbing Black Ignition. Yeah That's

Andi 11:28

literally like an

Tanner 11:29

AI

Andi 11:29

that. That's those words. It's like, you put a bunch of sci-fi words right? In like a bucket and you just

Sups 11:35

pull that Yeah,

Tanner 11:36

I think artificial brain is just a bunch of computers hooked up together.

Andi 11:39

it's literally so the lyrics did sos write them is a question I dunno. Maybe. Maybe. I feel like, maybe,

Tanner 11:48

I think it's more believable than the second one.

Andi 11:50

Yeah, the second one was way too like deep and confusing that I don't even know what's going on in that one. Yeah. So like

Tanner 11:57

in my experience, when you make something up, you don't go full on

Andi 12:02

Yeah Yeah Figurative Yeah You don't, Tanner

Sups 12:06

Ok.

Tanner 12:06

I'm When I make up stuff, I would include death. I would include dying.

Andi 12:14

I feel like this one soups could have written this one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's impressive. Yeah. But I feel like maybe this one, like. Going with like a cosmic theme, like, Oh, I'll do space death Yeah, we'll do like heat, Death of the

Tanner 12:29

the

Andi 12:29

is what we're talking about. And I also thought like, Dance of Death, you know, like dance McCobb, which is like a major theme in a lot of art. Mm-hmm. And so, I thought that was a weird choice of name because there's no dancing skeleton

Tanner 12:41

coming

Sups 12:41

outta

Andi 12:41

the, I love dance Mc McCab. It's always so great. Like, there's like a weird, weird shaped skeleton that's not quite right and it's like coming out of the grave and it's like Memento Mori like is like dancing.

Tanner 12:52

That has a very like New Orleans fun death vibe. Right. Like a festival

Andi 12:57

of Death. Yeah. Or like Day of the Dead like Yeah. In Mexico. So

Tanner 13:01

this is very cosmic

Andi 13:02

Even you very atoms one day will decay and you will become nothing.

Tanner 13:07

Yes. Yeah. I think it sounds. Believable that it was made up, but, I would listen to it

Andi 13:13

a song Yeah. I don't know. One

Tanner 13:16

Yeah. One

Sups 13:17

more. Okay. song number four. Scum The lyrics in your mind, nothing but fear. You can face life or believe that's near a vision of life on television screens and existence created from empty dreams, hide behind tv, hide behind life. You should be living, but you only. Life holds nothing but pain and death. Don't look for love. That is none left.

Tanner 13:50

Whoa

Andi 13:51

But imagine it's

Sups 13:52

Yeah, So Scum is one of the greatest songs from the album of the same name by the British Band Napal. They are the pioneers of Grind Core, which is a subra of debt Metal. SC is their second studio album released in 1987. Nappa Death, hold the Guinness Book of World record For the shortest song ever recorded, the song is you suffer and it's only 1.3 seconds long.

Tanner 14:24

What?

Andi 14:25

It's just

Tanner 14:26

song. Oh, Yeah

Sups 14:29

And just so you know, the difference between grind core and debt metal is that grind core has its influence from hardcore punk, that's

Andi 14:37

mm-hmm it sounds punky

Sups 14:39

Yeah.

Tanner 14:39

It sounds, almost emo vibes. Yeah. It literally says there's no love. Right? Yeah. Right. Don't look for love. There's none left.

Andi 14:46

It isn't Bemo

Sups 14:47

Yeah.

Tanner 14:49

if that's really where the song comes from, then that makes

Andi 14:52

a lot of sense. Right? Yeah. These lyrics, I mean, so why I thought was interesting, it rhymes.

Tanner 14:57

Yeah.

Andi 14:57

Only the first one had any kind of rhyme. I wonder, It seems believable though, because it's old. Mm-hmm. like if you notice, the older songs are the ones that rhymed. Yeah. Because I guess like, you know, you can't just totally flip the whole script on everything. So like, you still keep some of the old uh song writing things like rhyming and then like, it's the later bands that are like, Eh, we don't

Tanner 15:18

care. Yeah. I think that must be what these reviewers get at with Progressive. The more progressive the songs are, the less they have of these traditional styles of rhyming and rhyme

Andi 15:27

Yeah. And just probably even musically as well as like kind of expected

Tanner 15:32

patterns and stuff. Yeah.

Andi 15:33

Yeah. Did soups make this up?

Tanner 15:35

Hmm. Yeah. That's tough.

Andi 15:37

That's a Hard one.

Tanner 15:39

Yeah. I really think it sounds real.

Andi 15:41

It sounds real. It had a red duplication, which is like, that's pretty impressive. device. I'm wondering, like you were of like, if it rhymes, does that make it more likely that he wrote it or less likely? Is it easier to write something that rhymes or something that doesn't rhyme Mm-hmm. also I feel like there's something super death metal and like, Darkly funny about how like you can't even hear what they're singing anyway Yeah Right Like it's kind of funny. Like it's almost a joke on itself. It's like a meta thing of like, we're just gonna scream and grow these lyrics anyway Yeah. But they rhyme. Right? we made them complex and

Sups 16:15

interested

Tanner 16:16

That's so true.

Andi 16:17

Yeah. I'm genuinely shocked and impressed that one of those is

Tanner 16:21

is not real. Yeah I would've said they were

Andi 16:23

all real. I really, actually, this is gonna be very hard. Yeah. So Can you repeat the four songs for us and then we'll guess which one we think you made up.

Sups 16:33

Perfect. So the song titles, song number one, A Sky full of Maggots by Cannibal Corps. Song number two, Black Label by Lamb of God. Song number three, Dance of Death by Artificial Brain. Song number four, Sc by Na pam, Death

Andi 17:05

Oh my God. Wow. What are you thinking?

Tanner 17:09

I really like the make It's one. I am confident that that is, because I felt like I could sing along. And I feel like it's so complex to have the call in response. It just sounds like such a real death metal song.

Andi 17:25

Yeah. But also I think if you were gonna invent a death metal song Yeah You would go with the most death metal kind of lyrics where you're talking about

Tanner 17:33

I would literally have corpses and maggots.

Andi 17:35

So that to me makes me a bit skeptical because it's it's a bit like, if you were writing a death metal song, you'd write about it with ro corpse is pretty poetic though. That's impressive

Tanner 17:45

And it rhymed.

Andi 17:46

Yeah it rhymes. I honestly, number one is what I'm kind of looking

Tanner 17:49

kinda Wow Okay

Andi 17:51

It's a B

Tanner 17:52

though. Yeah, I like it.

Andi 17:54

You're

Tanner 17:55

it if it's not a real song. Number two, the non rhyming.

Andi 18:00

I honestly didn't know what was happening in that. So, on the one hand, that could be realistic because like there are real artists who spend time thinking about lyrics and like, you know, to me that was a lot of hot nonsense. Um number three, I'm kind of leaning that direction, but I don't know. I mean, if SOS came up with the whole idea of doing a cosmic version or maybe he had heard of this band and then was like, I can write a space

Tanner 18:25

Yeah. I'm gonna name a dance of death and I'm gonna throw in all these space things. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

Andi 18:31

And then the fourth one. Also it rhymes.

Tanner 18:33

Mm-hmm.

Andi 18:34

and

Tanner 18:34

got that punk emo vibe.

Andi 18:37

Yeah. It kind of does sound like bad love poetry. Yeah. Which, you know, you could,

Tanner 18:42

You could make up, but also a lot of bands go that route, you know? Especially if it's an older metal band like in the eighties.

Andi 18:50

Yeah.

Tanner 18:51

feel like that would make sense.

Andi 18:53

I'm gonna go with number four?

Tanner 18:56

Number four. You think the The loved one, What was it called again? Scum

Andi 19:02

Oh it was just called Scum.

Tanner 19:04

You think it's scum?

Andi 19:06

Oh man, I really don't know. I said it, so I'll go

Tanner 19:09

with it. Okay. I'm gonna go with number three. That artificial brain. I

Andi 19:12

Yeah the space.

Tanner 19:13

One, some made up. that's poetry from soups. I

Sups 19:15

think

Andi 19:16

that's a soup's

Tanner 19:17

original. Yeah, Yeah

Andi 19:18

Yeah Wow Soup's. You're a lyrical genius. This is

Sups 19:22

really like, Thank you. let's yeah, let's start with the good news. The good news is that one of you is right

Andi 19:28

Oh, mes is real sky full of mes. Yes.

Tanner 19:33

And who knows what Lamb of God

Andi 19:34

up

Tanner 19:34

to

Sups 19:35

mean, I dare try to make up a song and like assign to Lamb of God, like you know they're

Andi 19:41

like a true

Sups 19:42

The made up song is song number three.

Andi 19:46

Yeah Space

Sups 19:47

I think I didn't know anything, but when I was, curious because most of these metal bands are from late eighties and nineties, so I was very curious to find out. Who's like the current number one, right Yeah. And turns out artificial brain. It is. And all of their songs is about this space. Cosmic. Mm-hmm. Actually this song had like a lot of inspiration. I did take a while to create this song. The inspiration behind this, some of the wordings I actually got from a mantra dedicated to Shva, which is like the lot of

Tanner 20:18

trans It is cosmic trans

Andi 20:20

that's awesome.

Sups 20:22

So I took some inspiration from there. then I Googled like, what are the most common words used in death metal. So things like Abs Barron, Glory renaissance And I like, I took like random words and I was like, Okay, Yeah. And the album is also Labyrinth. Constellation,

Andi 20:39

That literally sounds like you just pulled two words out of what does that even

Tanner 20:43

Yeah. Yeah

Sups 20:44

yeah, that's it. Yeah. And scam is real. It's Naim death. Yeah

Andi 20:48

Yeah

Tanner 20:48

That's awesome. Let's record that third

Andi 20:50

Let's record that. That's pretty sick. we can go to the metal karaoke place and actually we know some people who can do this We make this happen We're gonna change the name though. Yeah, because the song is called I should have Known.

Tanner 21:01

Yes. Yes. Always known.

Andi 21:05

Thanks for listening to this episode out the I Should Have Known podcast. We'll be continuing with our Halloween theme for the rest of the month, and even though it's very annoying and difficult, we humbly beg you to leave us a review on whatever product you use For some reason it's really helpful and important, probably because it's annoying. So if you like this episode, please do that. And as always, Thanks for listening

Sups 21:30

Amazing.