June 27, 2023

Colorful Cuisine - Rainbow Theme

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To conclude our Rainbow Theme for the month, enjoy a hefty portion of this kaleidoscopic episode exploring colorful cuisine! Quizmaster Sups serves up four delicious facts about foods from around the world. But one of them is an inedible lie! Join our hue-morous hosts, Andi and Tanner, as they dig in to try to scoop it out from his menu of colorful, culinary facts.

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Andi

it feels very French royalty because it's like teeny tiny. You

Sups

can hold it in your little thing. Yeah.

Andi

and just like, Yeah. So it's like very

Sups

appealing

Tanner

Cause it's kinda like a rainbow.

Sups

Yes. Fresh and summary.

Andi

Do they go to Hawaii? I feel like they might. I mean, I don't know if I don't know fish man. You're like incensed about the chicken. Oh my God. Oh my God. How Dare you. Hello and welcome to, I Should have Known the Trivia Game Show that Can't Be Trusted. Each week our Quizmaster will present you with four facts about a topic. A one of those facts will be a lie, we are celebrating season four. we are kicking it off with Rainbow months. For June and this week our host is soups.

Sups

Aloha.

Andi

Soups is going to be presenting us with four facts on colorful culinary creations. but one of his facts is inedible and is a lie. So join me, Andy, and our other host Tanner in figuring out which one it is.

Sups

Yeah. Okay.

Andi

Are you hungry?

Tanner

Oh yeah. hope you're Hungry Hungry for

Andi

facts. Yeah.

Sups

Hungry. Four facts. Yes. For But before we get started with the facts, let's do our pq,

Tanner

Q

Andi

Yes.

Sups

pub quiz question of the week. Alright, Pqq.

Tanner

Love it.

Sups

All so this celebrity chef, Is known for his Sharp Tongue has been on many TV shows such as Health's Kitchen and Master Chef and owns three Michelin star restaurants in London. Who am I talking

Tanner

about? this is one of like three chefs. I know

Andi

Yeah, exactly. Like when you first were saying it was gonna be a chef was like, oh no, I'm screwed. But I do know this one.

Tanner

It's Gordon

Andi

right?

Sups

Yeah. a hundred percent. Yeah.

Andi

He is like really one of like three or four, I could have told

Sups

Okay, good.

Andi

Good. So yeah,

Sups

Okay. We could start with four facts, right? And we are gonna do two Sweet and two

Andi

Ooh, I love it.

Tanner

Put some thought into the menu.

Andi

I like it.

Sups

Yes. And we are gonna go around the world for this. But let's start with France. Okay. Okay. Fact number one, Macaronis.. Were served as the dessert at Louis Fourteens wedding.

Andi

Oh, okay.

Tanner

Oh,

Andi

Macarons macaroons. It's always like, which is the right form? I don't know.

Sups

Well, in case, You didn't know what macaroons were They're these pastel color desserts. Very popular in France,

Andi

They look

Tanner

almost like hamburgers. Yeah.

Andi

like little sliders. They're and they have like cream or Yeah. Something in the middle.

Sups

Yes. And So the style of making macaroons is believed to have come from today's

Andi

Middle East

Sups

and then it. Made its way

Andi

to Italy.

Sups

And then to France by Catherine the Medici the wife of King Henry ii. Mm-hmm. The French method of making macaroons involves whisking egg whites until it forms

Andi

meringue.

Sups

And then powdered sugar and almond flour are added slowly and mixed to achieve like the

Tanner

desired

Andi

consistency. Mm-hmm.

Sups

So historically macaroons were the food for the royalty. Louis 14, also known as the Sun King. Mm-hmm. King of France, from 1643 to 1715. He was also a patron of arts and artists And he looked after the construction of the

Andi

Palace of versa.

Tanner

I was

Andi

say he built Versace. Yeah.

Tanner

Mm-hmm.

Sups

And Chef Adam, who was looking after the wedding, Of Louis 14 and Murray Teresa in 1660. he served, this for all the wedding guests, because the French royal court, they had an affinity for sweet

Tanner

Uhhuh Uhhuh

Sups

chef Adam, He has now a c Chocolat called Maam, which exists even today, and they still use the same recipe that they used in 1660.

Andi

Oh wow. it feels very French royalty because it's like teeny tiny. You

Sups

can hold it in your little thing. Yeah.

Andi

and just like, Yeah. Little bites like that. And

Sups

have to finish my

Tanner

lover and my dog.

Andi

Yes.. I kind of feel like it really fits the vibe of France at the time and all their like Rococo bullshit of like,

Tanner

we

Andi

We just have piles of macarons, and That's what we're

Tanner

gonna eat. Yeah. I think the question comes down to were they even in France at that time?

Andi

Yeah. Well, Katherine Dei would've been way before that. Mm-hmm. I mean, it's hard because it really is just one of those things where it's just like a historical fact. Like it's yes or no. Right. did they serve them or not?

Tanner

Maybe it's a long tradition of French Kings serving these and it's like, well, yeah, of course he did. And his dad did

Andi

or I think Nothing seems more Maria Antoinette than her, like eating little macarons and like, you know, like it's so like peak France. Like

Tanner

Let them eat MAs.

Andi

eat MAs. Yeah, exactly. So maybe that's the lie is No, it wasn't his wedding. Louis the xiv, it was Marie Antoinette. Because that's a person soups would think we know. Right? And it's like you associate her with. Being lush and eating cake and macarons, and so

Tanner

Oh,

Andi

maybe that's where the lie is.

Tanner

That's totally believable. Yeah. So it would be well known. Or I could easily see it on King Louis the 14th table. You know,

Andi

it's like, well, yeah, dude built Versailles, so why not? I don't

Tanner

know. Right. that's a tricky one. It's tricky. Starting off tricky.

Sups

Okay. Let's move on then to fact number two. Mm-hmm. Time for some savory dish. Yeah. Okay. From

Tanner

France, we take a flight

Sups

straight to Hawaii.

Andi

Ooh.

Sups

Fact number two,

Tanner

Authentic

Andi

poke balls.

Tanner

always have tuna

Andi

in it.

Tanner

Okay. Poke balls. Yes.

Sups

Yeah. Very instagramable. Very

Tanner

colorful book.

Sups

So

Andi

it contains,

Tanner

Fish

Sups

fish is raw, Sauce of your choice, any kind of soy sauce. Of course you have rice and then you add toppings. It could be a avocado, edam, could even be mango or pineapple.

Andi

And then you are all mixing them together. Yeah. So it's like very

Sups

appealing

Tanner

Cause it's kinda like a rainbow.

Sups

Yes. Fresh and summary. So if you're from Hawaii, then you have definitely grown up with poke balls. The closest translation of poke means chunk. So basically you would just take chunks of.

Tanner

Fish to make

Andi

the centerpiece

Sups

of the meal. Ancient Hawaiian fishermen took

Andi

these chunks and mixed

Sups

it with salt

Tanner

or seaweed.

Sups

In most places,

Andi

you get it with salmon, Yeah. Like, you mean outside of Hawaii?

Sups

Yes, So the authentic pokeball should always have the

Tanner

or

Sups

the yellow tail, Tuna. Okay.

Andi

Now if you put chicken, salmon, you've just taken the formula, but it's different. yeah, exactly. Okay. So I find this pretty believable because of what he was saying about the fish. So like, if you think about it, well, like ak, I don't know exactly where that name comes from, but I'm pretty sure they live in the Pacific. Yeah. So it would make sense that like indigenous people of Hawaii, right. Had access to this fish and they would use it. I don't know exactly where salmon lives. I associate salmon with the north with the colder waters. So like, Do they go to Hawaii? I feel like they might. I mean, I don't know fish man. Right. But like if you're talking traditional, it

Tanner

has to be the fish Yeah. that we're from the region. Right. the fact was it has to have salmon, I would be like uh, I don't know about that. But

Andi

tuna is much more believable, like you're saying. Yeah. That makes sense. So yeah, that kind of checks out.

Tanner

this

Andi

is

Tanner

old fish. Right. Right. So to have authentic Hawaiian pk, you would have the authentic Hawaiian fish. Yeah. Right. That makes sense. Right.

Andi

Right.

Tanner

But how could it be a lie

Andi

that, oh, you can make anything up, poke

Tanner

that it's like what kind of a poke bowl is like, it can be

Andi

anything you want. It's

Tanner

of the scraps of the fish, whatever you

Sups

have leftover. Sure. Maybe that's its vibe. that could be

Andi

know.

Tanner

But

Andi

I don't know, I could also see it being like it has to be

Tanner

the fish that the people had access to Right.

Sups

Alright, then we move on to another desert Fact number three. The red and the red velvet cake originally came from natural sources.

Andi

What? So I love me some red velvet. That cream cheese of frosting. So

Sups

Yes.

Tanner

On cupcakes and cake. Oh, so good.

Sups

So red velvet cake, as the name says, is red in color and is made with combining cocoa powder, butter, sugar, eggs, and flour, as well as buttermilk vinegar. Red food coloring. And the cream cheese frosting. Cream cheese

Tanner

so that's how you get it to be red? Yeah,

Andi

Yeah, it's just dye.

Sups

So The modern version of the cake, as we know today was invented in New York City. In the 1920s, this red velvet cake became super

Andi

popular,

Sups

because the Waldorf Astoria Hotel in New York, oh. They put it in their menu in the 1930s. but researchers that the history of red velvet cake actually goes back to slavery. In the early 18 hundreds enslaved African Americans, they created a version of the red velvet cake.

Tanner

Hmm.

Sups

they used, beetroot and with cocoa powder to give it, chocolate flavor. But of course, very different than the modern looking one, like one of those older, versions.

Andi

That Makes sense. Beets are red and they're sweet.

Tanner

Yeah, I, I guess that makes sense

Andi

And also it makes sense. Most of American desserts, if you really start digging, they were invented by enslaved people, like all of them. Mm. Like every pie you can think of. So like, that makes it sound more real to me. Mm-hmm. enslaved people inventing a dessert that everyone loves now. Mm-hmm. And that probably some rich white dude got credit for, for making it at some hotel. Yeah, that sounds very believable. Yeah. I don't know about the whole die thing though,

Tanner

right?

Sups

so back in the 18 hundreds, brown sugar was more commonly available than refined white sugar. And brown sugar at that time was called red sugar. And it gave like a vaguely reddish hue. and the cocoa powder this is not the cocoa that we know today. This was like a very different, Variation and combining cocoa powder, And buttermilk and that gave the Red color

Tanner

I mean, that kind of checks out. Like how would you invent a red velvet cake? Like if it's not this natural source, then it has to be like an addition. Why would you even think. To make it with red food coloring. It would make more sense to me that it came from a natural process of like, they put this and this together and it was red.

Andi

Yeah. Right.

Tanner

I

Sups

gonna, We

Andi

have one more

Sups

to hear it before we Alright, Last course. Okay. When we talk about food, I cannot not include a fact about

Andi

India.

Sups

So, Of course. yes. Oh, I

Andi

I was kind of

Sups

waiting Alright, so fact number four. Every state in India has their own version of the Tali dish.

Tanner

Have you

Sups

seen a Tali? Do you know?

Andi

explain

Sups

Okay. so, alright, So Tali literally means plate. Okay. And Tali is where basically you'd have multiple bowls of like different dishes, Indians are crazy about rice. So the is at the center and then you have like small bowls. Of, Different kind of dishes. It's based on the ancient Ayurveda rituals of eating, which believe that every meal should have the presence of six days. Um, so every meal should have like these Elements, They came up in the south of India and quickly spread to the rest of the country. It's probably the most colorful presentation of food that you will see. I was gonna ask Yes. where's the color? Yes. It's

Andi

because all the

Sups

are different, right? Yes. And now because we

Andi

have 28 states

Sups

every state. Has their own version. A standard version of a vegetarian Tully will contain rice, some flatbread doll, which is a soup, the salad, Ry pickles, some snacks

Tanner

curry, a dessert. And then las. So these are all arranged around the rice

Andi

Exactly. Colorful. like rainbow almost? Yes. Okay. Yes. So like this is okay cuz like when you said it I was like, I

Tanner

know what all of those things are individually.

Andi

you're saying this is like when you

Tanner

get the value meal.

Andi

Yeah. Oh you know, you have like all of the side bits because you usually have like all the parts,

Sups

So

Andi

you're saying every state has a different version.

Sups

Yes. And you know, you get both vegetarian and non-vegetarian, you'll have few meat variations,

Andi

or lamb

Sups

Chicken lamp.

Tanner

Yeah. Depending where you are. Mm-hmm. Or

Sups

fish. so

Andi

What's the ASAM

Sups

was the ASAM version. So in Asam, so you will have rice, you will have the doll, and then you have fish, which is like a sour. Kind of fish, which is very popular

Andi

like with vinegar or like, uh,

Sups

not with a vinegar, citrus yeah, something citrusy. Mm-hmm. And you'll have actually, Two or three different types of fish because river fish is very popular,

Andi

I feel like that's a hack for traveling around India. It's like instead

Tanner

of having to like, choose

Andi

know just gimme the Tali and I'll eat whatever's on here.

Sups

Sorry.

Tanner

So hungry now.

Sups

good. Yes. Okay.

Tanner

I honestly, I'm like, I don't even want

Sups

to. this.

Tanner

things. I'm just like, yeah, sure. I just wanna order this. Yeah.

Andi

I just wanna eat it.

Tanner

Yeah. I also think like,

Andi

while I've had Indian food. Why has this not been on the menu? if I'm going to the right places? Cause it seems to me like it's more of like a style of ordering than a dish. So like it wouldn't be on a menu here. Right? Because like, I guess you could, if you were dining in, you could order it this style. Yeah. But like the things in the bowls that you get to eat, like I feel like Westerners, we want to choose. Yeah. Yeah.

Tanner

So

Andi

like, People would

Tanner

not go for this idea right? like, I'm just gonna give you what I'm giving you and you're gonna like Exactly.

Sups

So that's why a lot of Indian restaurants here, or generally outside India, they do it like as a lunch

Andi

menu, Okay. You probably had it. I probably did. Yeah.

Sups

Yeah.

Andi

Yeah. How is this not the universal way to eat? And I'm sorry. Like, I feel like I got shortchanged being like born into this food culture. Like I want to eat everything, Little bits of everything

Sups

for everyone.

Andi

for the

Tanner

fact or whatever, I'm like, I honestly don't care.

Andi

I am like,

Tanner

sure. Maybe one state doesn't have it or something, but it sounds pretty real. Yeah. Yeah. I think,

Sups

think the

Andi

elsewhere. I'm not gonna investigate this one. Yeah. sounds too tasty to be alive. It also sounds very reasonable it feels like it's a very natural thing that would occur. Yeah. I'm not Indian, but this is kind of my understanding of India in general, That it's like it is a super diverse place, but then also like unified

Sups

Yeah. In some way. You just said the official slogan of India, which is unity in diversity.

Andi

There it's, yeah. you running

Tanner

for anything? Is that your campaign?

Sups

That's

Andi

I could not handle an Indian debate. Have you ever watched one of those debate shows?

Tanner

I

Sups

I could mm-hmm. not

Andi

do that. I

Sups

would

Andi

get eaten a lot.

Sups

I Stress out watching.

Tanner

them. Yeah.

Sups

Okay. Those were my four facts about colorful food.

Andi

Yeah. So I'm definitely salivating. Yeah. I'm gonna need you to repeat those four facts for us real quick before Tanner and I try to guess which one is the lie.

Sups

Okay. Fact number one, maroons was served as a dessert at Louis Fourteens wedding Fact number two, authentic poke bowls always have tuna in it. Fact number three, the red and the red velvet cake originally came from natural sources. Fact number four, every state in India has their own version of Tali.

Tanner

All right,

Andi

For me, pack number four, it all seemed so. Real that like, I'm just going to, I wanna believe

Tanner

I'm very inclined to believe soups on anything about India.

Andi

Yeah. I mean, but that maybe that's what he is playing with. He knows that. Yeah. So I don't think it's that one. And what number two is the poal

Tanner

tuna. Yeah. that one I'm on the fence on because I think it could be like, oh, it's just the. Poor people's food, so it doesn't matter the fish. That makes sense to me. But it also is like, well it should be authentic, it should be tuna. So I'm either way,

Andi

so for me it's between one and three.

Tanner

Okay.

Andi

And we talked a lot about the whole red food dye thing and like, I'm not super convinced, but, Seems reasonable. Like I said, like most American desserts, a lot of them originated that way. Mm-hmm. if you take away the modern idea of red and you think of a more reddish brown, then like yeah, that's, Yeah. people could

Tanner

achieve that. Yeah.

Andi

I convinced myself in the discussion I. for number one, I think that's the trick. I think it was Maria Annette's wedding where they had the macarons and that's what he's playing with. Mm-hmm. it has a different famous French wedding.

Tanner

That makes sense. Because I don't honestly know that much about King Louis the iv. Yeah. but I do know more about Maria Antoinette, so that would be more of a believable fact, I think. Yeah.

Andi

Macaron seemed like such a peak French indulgent thing. Mm-hmm. Who's the peak French indulgent idea in your head? Is Maria Antoinette? So like, even though she wasn't actually French and probably wasn't that indulgent, but you know, that's the stereotype. So I think I'm gonna go with that

Tanner

Okay. I think it's the third one. I don't think that, it could naturally be that red. I think it would be an interesting experiment to try to make a red velvet cake without adding Artificial dyes.

Andi

yeah.

Tanner

I think it's number three.

Andi

I think it's number one.

Sups

Okay. so we've got number one about macarons and we've got number three About the red velvet cake. Okay. the lie is fact. Number two,

Andi

Okay. the

Sups

poke balls Can be tuna

Tanner

or

Andi

an important creation that you forgot. Octopus. Octopus. Oh no.

Sups

Yes,

Andi

So it's

Tanner

tuna and octopus. A tuna and or But it

Sups

has to have

Tanner

one

Andi

those at least. or it's

Tanner

no good Forgot about

Sups

eating

Andi

octopus. Yeah. I guess I was so stuck on fish. Yeah.

Tanner

So that's traditional to eat octopus pocket balls.

Sups

Yes. Octopus or

Tanner

of course. Salmon isn't, right. Yeah. so

Sups

the moment

Andi

you put salad, it's like it's no longer an authentic Chicken. Chicken. Oh my god,

Sups

yes. Or

Tanner

like a vegan

Andi

You're like incensed about the chicken. Oh my God. Oh my God. How Dare you. Oh, okay. So I like we could have thought of other,

Tanner

yeah.

Andi

foods in the area. We

Tanner

You didn't think

Andi

octopus.

Tanner

Man. about them.

Andi

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Tanner

Delicious.