9th Grade Geography - Back to School Theme

Andi 0:01

It's so not necessary to name stuff after yourself. Like why do dudes wanna do this so badly? so either. This is the lie

Tanner 0:10

or our math

Andi 0:10

is, or exactly

Tanner 0:13

oh, judging by my other math skills.

Andi 0:17

Our geography is more about like physical geography and political geography and culture.

Sups 0:24

I didn't set

Tanner 0:24

the,

Sups 0:24

curriculum. This is taken straight out

Andi 0:27

I am chapter one Hello. And welcome to this episode of the, I should have known podcast, the trivia podcast that can't be trusted each week. Our Quizmaster presents you with four big facts on a topic, but one of those facts is a. And we are doing back to school for our theme this month, since many people and many places are either back or soon to be going back to school. And this week, our Quizmaster is soups. Hello. He is going to be doing ninth grade geography. So we have a special format this month soups will give you four questions with four answers, B, C, D, and he will tell you the correct answer to the. But for one of the questions he will tell you the wrong answer is correct. So join me, Andy and our other host Tanner in figuring out which question he's lying about.

Sups 1:22

question. All right, so we're doing ninth grade geography. Before we begin. Let me give you a little bit of 1 0 1 on Caton education in India.

Andi 1:31

Okay. Yes.

Sups 1:32

In India, we have multiple education boards that set the curricular of the school. All right. One is called the central board of secondary education. This is the one that I studied. This is like run by the central government and across the country, the schools that follow this education board, the course, and the material is the same. It's standardized is standardized. It's the same textbooks. The second one is called Indian council of secondary education, which was actually set up just after India's independence to replace the Cambridge school certification. So this was sort of India's version of the English educat.

Tanner 2:11

Okay. Okay.

Sups 2:12

And then the third you have every state in India also has their education board.

Tanner 2:16

Mm-hmm

Andi 2:17

oh, wow.

Sups 2:17

And then you have the fourth one, which is the IB and the, a levels, the so-called international

Tanner 2:22

Ah, okay.

Andi 2:23

I feel like many us listeners. We don't really use the term secondary school. Right. That just means high school.

Sups 2:29

Yeah.

Andi 2:29

okay. It's like seventh and up. Correct. And IB system and all these things. Like, I don't know anything about that. We don't use that in the us, so I know it exists but I actually don't know what, like the levels mean I'm not gonna lie.

Tanner 2:42

Yeah. Our boards are most similar to the different

Andi 2:45

Yeah, we have like states.

Sups 2:46

IB is like the Swiss board. I think it's originated in Switzerland. Yeah And it's like 11th and 12th. So like senior secondary.

Andi 2:54

Right? I didn't

Sups 2:55

Okay,

Andi 2:55

right. So this is gonna be relevant. Wait, so is this ninth grade in India? Correct. to be taking

Sups 3:01

content from the ninth grade geography from the Maharashtra state board. Matra is the state where Mumbai is the capital.

Tanner 3:09

Okay. Okay.

Sups 3:09

So that state board's ninth grade geography textbook all the content.

Andi 3:15

All right. So this is like, probably very similar to our ninth grade. So the first year of high school would be in the us. Right. So you're about 14,

Sups 3:24

15, 14, 15. That's correct. All

Andi 3:26

right. So are we smarter than some 14, 15 year old Indian kids? Let's see.

Tanner 3:33

I

Sups 3:33

we'll soon find out with the low hagging fruit of the week. Oh,

Andi 3:37

boy. This is the easy one. This is the easy

Sups 3:40

all. Okay, cool. How many longitudes can be drawn on a world map, keeping an interval of five degree each.

Tanner 3:49

whoa. Longitude is the up and down ones, right?

Sups 3:53

Longitudes. yeah.

Andi 3:54

Yeah. Well, it's usually It's like

Tanner 3:56

of a math

Andi 3:57

cuz it's yeah, it's more of a math question because I was thinking of like hours, you know, like you divided by hours, then you've divided by degrees, right? So there's 360. So divided by five,

Sups 4:09

right?

Andi 4:10

72.

Sups 4:11

There you go. Yeah, that's correct.

Andi 4:14

That was more math

Tanner 4:15

Yeah.

Andi 4:15

was more math listen,

Sups 4:17

I didn't set

Tanner 4:17

the,

Sups 4:17

curriculum. This is taken straight out

Andi 4:20

I am chapter one now. I'm, I'm very terrified that that was the lowing

Sups 4:25

Yeah. Okay. Cool. Question. Number one, the latitude and the longitude of paging are 39 degree, 56 minutes north and 116 degree, 24 minutes east respect. If it is 9:21 AM in Greenwich, then what is the time in China? Your options are 3:21 PM, 4:21 PM, 5:21 PM or 6:21 PM.

Tanner 4:53

I gotta think about

Andi 4:55

I have a guess. But I wanna hear what you say. This is the right

Sups 4:58

Okay. So the answer is option C 5 21.

Andi 5:03

Yeah. Okay. And what time was it in Greenwich? Again?

Sups 5:06

9:21 AM.

Andi 5:07

All right. So,

Tanner 5:08

thing I know about time zones in China is that the whole country's won time

Andi 5:12

Yes because it's, the same time the whole country. So I

Sups 5:15

you pass the

Tanner 5:16

trick for

Sups 5:16

part.

Andi 5:17

Yes.

Tanner 5:17

Yes. but this is interesting cuz you start with Greenwich. Yeah. And then you go back.

Andi 5:22

Yeah. So this question makes me think. That there's some kind of like calculations involved that you can puzzle this out, which I think is kind of strange because the time zones are not geologically derived, so it's weird to think that you could guess it from. the longitude. Yeah. Right. Like, I mean, it makes sense theoretically on the earth. right

Tanner 5:42

Yeah. there should be 24 time zones, one for every hour. And then everything along that longitude should be that. But then you would split countries and you would have different parts in different time zones and yeah. So I think you make a good point.

Andi 5:55

All right. So let's try to puzzle it out. Maybe the way the book

Sups 5:58

Okay All right That that would be, that would be

Andi 6:00

be interesting.

Tanner 6:00

what was the given longitude of Beijing?

Sups 6:03

it's 39 degrees, 56 minutes, north latitude and

Andi 6:07

relevant information. 16

Sups 6:09

degree, 24 minutes. East longitude,

Andi 6:11

hundred and

Tanner 6:12

hundred 16 east. Okay. And Greenwich is zero.

Andi 6:15

Yeah. So if if you divided it into five degrees Mm-hmm you'd have 72 but we only 24. So that means that it's 15 degrees per

Tanner 6:24

hour Mm-hmm Okay. Very good. excellent.

Andi 6:28

okay. But then we have to divide 116 by 15.

Tanner 6:31

if I was sitting down taking this test, I would go, okay, it's very close to 180. So it's almost all the way around the world. So which one is closest to all the way around the clock?

Andi 6:41

So I guess you could do it the other way. If you did 180 minus 1 16, and you just said it was 180 minus one 20 estimate. So that's 60. And then you divide that by 15, which is three. So that means that it's three hours earlier than 12 hours. So that

Tanner 6:57

that was 9:00

Andi 6:58

nine hours from Greenwich time, which was 9:00 AM.

Tanner 7:02

I would go 12 hours later than 9:00 AM is 9:00 PM. Minus three would take you to 6:00

Andi 7:06

Sure. But that's not the time he said.

Tanner 7:09

yeah. 6 21.

Andi 7:10

No, no.

Sups 7:11

answer is 5 21

Andi 7:14

and then also that's not what I would've thought from experience either. So now I don't know.

Tanner 7:19

man Why, what do you think from

Andi 7:21

because I was thinking from Korea. Yeah. Cause I know the difference in time in Korea. Yeah. Because we used to live there. it's seven hours from here. And we're one hour ahead. it would be eight hours. Which would be his time.

Tanner 7:32

now

Andi 7:32

I don't know. Okay. But yeah, so like we came up with a different number than what he said mm-hmm so either. This is the lie

Tanner 7:39

or our math

Andi 7:40

is, or exactly

Tanner 7:42

oh, judging by my other math skills. But you helped you did the math.

Andi 7:47

Yeah.

Tanner 7:48

Okay It's a group project.

Sups 7:51

Let's move on to question number two. Filling the blanks. There is a discontinuity between the continental crust and oceanic crust. It was first deduced by a scientist called blanks and is named after him as blanks. discontinuity.

Tanner 8:06

Oh okay

Sups 8:08

And your options are. A Moro Vichi B Gutenberg, C Conrad, and D William Morris Davis.

Tanner 8:19

wow.

Sups 8:20

The right answer is option a MOIC or the MOHO discontinuity,

Tanner 8:26

I do not remember learning this

Andi 8:27

yes, this is not a thing I ever learned. I don't know what a disco continuity even means in this context.

Sups 8:32

Okay. So we've got like continental crust and oceanic crust. So the continents are basically Silicon aluminum and because of their high proportion in this layer, the layer was earlier known as C. S I a

Tanner 8:46

L Uhhuh. Okay. Okay. Their chemical symbols. Yeah.

Andi 8:49

Mm-hmm

Sups 8:50

Yeah.

Andi 8:50

Okay. And so this is what we're on, correct? This is the

Sups 8:53

correct. And then you have the ocean crust, which is the second layer of the crust. It is made above silica and magnesium. It was earlier called SEMA mm-hmm and The difference between this is not like a straight line that as you keep digging, you're gonna go from one crust to other. Okay And there is

Andi 9:11

we're on top of the oceanic crust, correct.

Sups 9:14

And this is known as the discontinuity. So Moor VI was Croatian, geophysicist

Andi 9:20

Okay. Knew he was a slob.

Tanner 9:21

definitely sounded

Sups 9:23

yeah So on eighth, October, 1909, there was an earthquake with its epicenter in the Paco region, somewhere 39 kilometers Southeast or Zare.

Andi 9:35

Okay. In Croatia

Sups 9:36

Croatia, correct. A number of CSMO graphs had been installed beforehand, and this provided valuable data and then new discoveries were made right. Based on this data. And so. He concluded that when cystic waves strike the boundary between different types of material they're reflected and reflected, just like as a light striking the prism. Yeah. And that's when earthquakes a occur and the two waves, the longitudinal and the transfers propagate through the soil with D.

Tanner 10:08

and wave mm-hmm

Andi 10:09

that makes

Sups 10:09

Yeah. And so by analyzing all of these data, he concluded that earth has several layers above a core, He was the first to establish based on this evidence from the cystic waves that, that this continuity is what separates the continental and oceanic crust.

Tanner 10:27

Mm-hmm okay. Cause it didn't look like his calculations would have looked if it was just like two pieces of bread on top of each other, instead there was like a creamy layer in between or something. Yeah. Yeah.

Sups 10:38

Yeah.

Andi 10:38

Wow. All right. what were the choices again?

Sups 10:40

Yeah. So option a is more widget, which is the right answer. Option B is Guttenberg C is Conrad and D as William Morris Davis.

Andi 10:50

Okay.

Tanner 10:50

Okay this strikes me. I don't know very much about Indian learning styles, but it sounds more like Indian than like American where you memorize a fact. Right. It's very important that you know, who developed

Andi 11:04

it Yeah I had a similar feeling about the question too, where like this isn't really a kind of question I, would see on a test in

Tanner 11:10

the us There's no way to apply your knowledge

Andi 11:13

I mean, when it comes to learning, memorization is involved. Yeah. You have to memorize certain things just to get going mm-hmm right, But at a certain point you kind of move on to the more analytical stuff, the harder stuff, the stuff, the computers can't do. Right.

Tanner 11:27

Like if you forgot this guy's name and you understood the concepts well enough, you could describe it without his name.

Andi 11:32

Yeah. And Tanner knows I have a lot of opinions, particularly in medical language, since that was my area of research, but just in general, like. Naming things after people is so irritating. Cause it's not necessary. It's so not necessary to name stuff after yourself. Like why do dudes wanna do this so badly? Yeah. I just think like it's your duty to humanity to give it an easy name? Yeah. Okay but anyway. Yeah. Yeah. So it is interesting to look at the difference, from our other episodes, the kinds of questions This is very different and I'm bad at them.

Tanner 12:03

Yeah. Right

Andi 12:04

at this kind of question. as far as the show goes

Tanner 12:08

The story in Crosha

Andi 12:09

the The story. Yeah, the story is, I don't think you're making that part up. You could be making up it's Croatia

Tanner 12:15

Yeah. Oh off to a good start

Sups 12:17

All right

Andi 12:18

Okay. We are getting completely wrecked

Sups 12:19

by

Andi 12:20

this. I hope listeners continu listening

Sups 12:24

Okay question number three what will be the relative humidity of air whose absolute humidity is 20 gram by meter cube and vapor holding capacity is 30 gram by meter cube. Your option a is 66.67%. Option B is 33.33%. Option C is 19.27% and option D a hundred percent.

Tanner 12:50

Okay. First thing I can draw from this, the answers seemed to be following a pattern until the third one. So it was 66, right. And then 33. Right. So, okay. It's two thirds, one third and then 19.7, two seven. I don't know that as a fraction off the top of my head and then a hundred.

Andi 13:08

Well, I mean, I even take a step back further here. Yeah. And the concept of absolute and relative

Tanner 13:15

Yeah. What is that?

Andi 13:16

Yeah, I mean, I'm guessing absolute humidity is literally how much water is in the

Tanner 13:22

air.

Andi 13:23

okay So like it's absolute mm-hmm and relative is. what you get when someone says like, okay, the humidity today is 75 or a hundred percent humidity. And what was the right answer soups

Sups 13:35

option a 66.67%.

Tanner 13:38

Nice.

Andi 13:39

All right. Two thirds. These are so much harder than the actual math questions we had to

Tanner 13:43

we have. Yeah. Yeah. So, okay. You have the absolute humidity is 20 grams per meter cube meter cube. Correct. And the vapor holding capacity was what?

Sups 13:53

30 gram by meter cube.

Tanner 13:54

Okay. 20 sure. Divided by 30, right. Two thirds, 66%.

Andi 13:59

yeah, that makes sense. That seems simple

Tanner 14:01

enough. Yeah the capacity is what you would divide it by. So I

Andi 14:04

That's like that's how much water the air can hold mm-hmm and how much water is in it. Yeah. But it's interesting cuz I did never think about when they, your phone tells you a hundred percent humidity don't even bother straighten your hair today. Yeah. How did they come up

Sups 14:19

with that

Tanner 14:20

Yeah Yeah

Andi 14:21

now I know

Tanner 14:22

and I think it's really really helpful that the names of these are descriptive

Andi 14:25

Yeah Imagine if it was called like the soup's volume is 20 grams per square

Tanner 14:32

Right But the Tanner coefficient

Andi 14:33

but the Tanner capacity is 30. It's like what? I don't know what any of that means Yeah Yes

Sups 14:40

anyway, question number four. These are characteristic clouds, which are indicators of thunderstorm. These look like huge mountains. These are dense and dark in color. There is thunder accompanied by lightning. They bring rain an may sometime bring hailstones, which type of clouds am I talking about? a zero Cumulus B. Auto Cumulus C nimble Strato D Cuon numbers. And so there is option D cuon numbers.

Tanner 15:12

Yes. This is something I feel pretty confident on

Andi 15:17

is a question. Yeah, I do feel really. Good about,

Tanner 15:20

for some reason we spent a long time

Andi 15:21

We did talk about clouds a lot. Yeah. I remember talking about clouds, but again, not in geography no this was definitely not in geography. Our geography is more about like physical geography and political geography and culture. Right. It's kind of a bit of like almost anthropology Right but but for children,

Sups 15:39

right Yeah Social studies Yeah. It's the same it's just that it's divided right. So part two, you have a section on physical

Andi 15:46

Okay

Sups 15:47

then you also have a part on culture.

Andi 15:49

Okay So yeah, we spent a lot of time on clouds in science

Tanner 15:53

Mm-hmm

Andi 15:53

Mm-hmm okay. Also knowing Latin.

Tanner 15:55

Yeah. That's exactly what I was thinking. You can break down some of these words into different parts and roots. And if you know the Latin term, it makes it easier how they're describing the

Sups 16:04

right Right

Andi 16:05

Okay.

Tanner 16:05

This is a storm cloud. When you see it coming

Andi 16:08

essentially the, this is a star. This is the fancy Latin name for a storm cloud, which I also. A gripe with but we don't have to get into it.

Sups 16:18

Okay. Those were my four questions from ninth grade

Andi 16:23

children I really hope some ninth graders are listening to this and just laughing at how dumb we are.

Tanner 16:30

they're is like easy, easy, easy.

Andi 16:32

Yeah. Well that's cuz you just studied it. Okay. I still stand by my statement that I made many episodes ago and was apparently very controversial that kids are dumb. okay. You're allowed to be dumb though, because you're a kid learning. You're still learning,

Tanner 16:47

Yeah.

Andi 16:48

Okay. So that was eye opening and very interesting. Can you please repeat the four questions with their four options And we will guess which one of your correct answers you lied about?

Sups 17:10

question number one, the latitude and the longitude of Beijing are 39 degree, 56 minutes north and 116 degrees, 24 minutes east respectively. If it is 9:21 AM in Greenwich, then what is the time in. a 20 1:00 PM B 20 1:00 PM. C 5 20 1:00 PM. And D 6:21 PM. And the correct answer is option C 5:21 PM. Question number two, filling the blanks. There is a discontinuity between the continental crust and oceanic crust. It was first used by a scientist called dash and is named after him as dash discontinuity. a Moro widget, B Gutenberg, C Conrad, D William. Davis and the answer is option a MOIC or the MOHO discontinuity question number three, what will be the relative humidity of air whose absolute humidity is 20 grams by meter cube and vapor holding capacity is 30 grams by meter cube. Option a 66.67%. Option B 33.33%. Option C 19.27% in option D a hundred percent. And the correct answer is option a 66.67%. And finally question number four. These are characteristic clouds, which are indicators of thunderstorm. These look like huge mountains. these are dense and dark in color. There is thunder accompanied by lightning. They bring rain with storm and may sometime bring hailstones, which type of clouds am I talking about? A zero Cumulus, B Cumulus, C nimble Stratus and DLO numbers. And the answer is option D Culo numbers.

Andi 19:06

And one of those, you gave us the wrong answer and told us we were right. Cuz you were just messing with us.

Tanner 19:13

this

Andi 19:13

is such an interesting, it's actually a very effective way to learn, I think, which is kind of counterintuitive.

Tanner 19:19

Yeah. It's like proved me wrong.

Andi 19:21

Yeah And like, knowing that someone's lying to you means you have to pay more attention and focus and scrutinize. Yeah. Whereas like someone just says, well, this is named after this guy. Like,

Tanner 19:32

okay. I hope I

Andi 19:33

about

Tanner 19:33

remember. Yeah.

Andi 19:34

also the first question sounds like the setup of a joke or something where it's like,

Tanner 19:38

it's the time in

Andi 19:39

the time in China? You know like you start out like if of all this information but I think that one might be the lie.

Tanner 19:44

why is that?

Andi 19:45

because what we ended up calculating was different from what he said mm-hmm and all the others seem okay. yeah.

Tanner 19:53

Okay

Andi 19:54

I'm not saying that math is perfect, but like that's the only area where I feel like there was something where I could. Guess about right where there was a discrepancy, a discontinuity between what I had figured out and what I thought and the correct

Tanner 20:11

career Mm-hmm

Andi 20:12

And the guy's name, That one's just a, that's a hail

Tanner 20:16

See that's the one that I think might be a lie because I think it's the easiest one to lie. It's just a dude's name. Yeah. And with the Zagreb thing, like, well you pick a country that he's from, and then you say there's an earthquake. Yeah. So I think I'm gonna go with that one and say, it's the William Morris Davis one

Andi 20:34

And that the earthquake was in

Tanner 20:36

was near the UK. Yeah,

Andi 20:37

Yeah. I mean, you're right. that could very easily be a lie. Yeah. Even though the fourth one that was another example of one where it's you just have to know the name.

Tanner 20:45

Right. You can't figure it

Andi 20:45

out. I mean, if you know Latin, you can figure it out, but what 14 year old knows Latin. Yeah. So that's kinda like these kids just memorized it, but we didn't have trouble with it because we also had memorized it once. Right. So like. That is one of those areas where you just have to memorize. And so that's what the kids are learning, you know, like that's the questions and it's interesting because usually on the show we don't have things

Tanner 21:04

that Right?

Andi 21:05

Right we can solve them. You can figure them out. You do some thinking

Tanner 21:07

I think those two are like truly what people think of when they think of trivia questions. Yeah. What's the name of the discontinuity? What's the name of the storm clouds like mm-hmm you either know it or you don't.

Andi 21:16

Yeah.

Sups 21:16

Yeah,

Andi 21:17

We have to find out which one he lied about. So I think it's question one.

Sups 21:22

Okay.

Tanner 21:22

I think it's the discontinuity

Andi 21:24

question two.

Tanner 21:25

mm-hmm

Sups 21:25

Okay, So we've got question one and two. So question number one is actually correct. And I'll tell you well, you can just memorize if you just know China sits on the UTC plus eight hours. So you just add

Andi 21:41

eight. So that was why I was like, from experience. I think SOS is right, right. But I went with the math

Sups 21:48

But if you wanna do the math, I mean, I just threw in the latitude part, which you, as correctly mentioned, it's

Andi 21:53

you. I just threw that up. I just wish that so best.

Sups 21:58

Yeah. This is what Indian teachers do. They just, you know, add like a

Andi 22:01

lot of and I was like, this is, this is not

Sups 22:04

and just to confuse students. Right. So. Forget latitude One degree is equal to four minutes, therefore, 116.2, four into four, you get 4, 464 point 96 minutes. And you're divided by 60. You get roughly eight hours yeah,

Andi 22:19

yeah Maybe I rounded too

Tanner 22:20

Yeah Yeah. Cuz if we went

Andi 22:22

had to whole 20 minute and and we had the

Tanner 22:25

there's still like 40 minutes

Andi 22:27

left. Yeah We I rounded

Tanner 22:28

two Yeah. Yeah.

Sups 22:31

That brings me to question number two. The right answer is actually Conrad There is a discontinuity between the continental and ocean crus. This was named after him as Conrad discontinuity mm-hmm there is a discontinuity between the crust and the mantle two.

Andi 22:47

No, there is discontinuity was

Sups 22:50

by scientists called Maor, which which remember Earthquake Earthquake has got nothing to do with continental and

Andi 22:56

ocean and it wouldn't go through the

Sups 22:58

Right, And you gotta go deep. And there is a discontinuity between the mantle and the core too. named after Gutenberg the scientist So it's known as the Gutenberg discontinuity. So they

Andi 23:09

all were

Tanner 23:10

That's such a good question then, because it tests your recall

Sups 23:14

of yeah The keyword was oceanic Yeah.

Andi 23:16

But also you just have to memorize that. And I never memorized that at any point in

Tanner 23:20

life Right

Andi 23:21

I guess we could have figured that

Tanner 23:23

out. Yes. With the earthquake hint.

Andi 23:25

Yes. So we should have been paying more attention. Yeah. So that's on

Sups 23:29

Yeah.

Andi 23:29

Wow. That was very interesting and insightful. And I should have known, I

Tanner 23:33

should have known.

Andi 23:34

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